Judgment Seat of Dave
June 20, 2023 | by Marc Cebrian
The advantage of having the entire Restored Church of God Ministerial Conference in past perspective is that the patterns that may not be apparent initially are fully realized after the five days are completed.
Pastor General David C. Pack is known throughout the Church of God community to be the most powerful sitter of our generation. It may even be fair to say that nobody has ever lived who can press their hind cheeks against faux leather as impressively and exquisitely as David Crowl Pack.
There is biblical significance in almost every aspect of his life. He lives in Wadsworth, also called “Elijah’s Settlement.” The Headquarters Campus is located on the highest point of this region of Northeastern Ohio. In the Hebrew language, his name means David Passover. But, in Latin, it means David Gluteus Maximus.
Herbert W. Armstrong may have been the world-class sitter of his time. Still, he never could have imagined the sheer magnetism of his chosen protégé's rear end planted so firmly in a chair while presiding over the most important Conference since Acts 15.
Part 448, Part 1 – June 11, 2023
@ 01:01 This will be the most important Conference since Acts 15…and it’ll be for reasons (in a way) you can’t imagine.
The most important and boring Ministerial Conference was five days long. David C. Pack sat for eleven hours. Talking so much. Yet, saying so little.
Proving just how pointless it all was, today is June 20. Tammuz 1 on the Hebrew calendar. Today is another tremendous prophetic construct to be wished away into the cornfield of the Headquarters Campus.
As it so happens, Tammuz 1 is the first failed date to be noted on the record by exrcg.org last year. From Tammuz 1 2022 to Tammuz 1 2023, David C. Pack has set 59 dates that came to naught.
But let not your heart be troubled.
Prophecy Update - Monday, June 19, 2023
Even if the start of Tammuz passes, there is every indication we are still on track. The whole picture is correct! A 382-day year would seem to justify God cutting it short on the front end so that Christ may come “as a thief.” A few more interesting things can be added if there is time later in the week.
Since everyone knows there is more time, Part 455 is scheduled for tomorrow. Do not let me talk you out of Tammuz 1 being THE day to watch. Let David C. Pack do it.
Part 446 – June 3, 2023
@ 40:32 Now, you should have enough now that nobody could ever ever ever talk you out of believing that the first year of the Kingdom of God…it's coming on Tammuz 1.@ 45:39 I could have given you more [proof], but there’s no possible way to defeat that.
Tomorrow, during Part 455, David C. Pack will do his darndest to defeat that. He has no choice. He has to.
One particular thing David C. Pack believes himself to be exceptional at is being the judge of hearts. He can look at someone and just KNOWS their motivations, particularly if they slump in their chairs. He has a complete understanding of how others think, what they think, and what they will do. Nobody can armchair quarterback your faith like David C. Pack can.
David C. Pack knows who God is or is not working with and why. He knows who will receive salvation and who will not. He is particularly keen on understanding the reasons brethren leave and often repeats them to warn others.
“They just wanna go out and sin.” “They don’t believe God.” “They don’t want to obey God.” “They didn’t love the truth.” “They’re arrogant and can’t be ruled.” “They don’t like people telling them what to do.” “They’re covetous and don’t want to give up their money.” “They don’t like how things are being done.” “This is taking too long.” “They don’t read their Bibles.” —On and on it goes.
What never enters the picture is HIS responsibility when brethren leave. He has washed his hands of the matter and is guiltless in his own eyes. He denies his role in all departures, and it is always their fault.
I left, and it was all my fault. Jessica left, and it was all her fault. Richard left…totally his fault. Do not get me started on how at-fault Elizabeth was.
I struggle to remember one time David C. Pack ever gave a legitimate reason for any brethren leaving that was actually true. Every version he utters from the table is from a distorted prism of his own assumptions. He can even read letters and assign perfect motivation.
The topic of people leaving The Restored Church of God and becoming enemies was sprinkled throughout the Ministerial Conference. It gives a relatively clear picture of what things look like between Dave’s ears. The reality of people leaving is very tangible now. Every warm body that walks out the door is money going down the drain.
Part 448, Part 1 – June 11, 2023
@ 58:13 We pretty much had it settled until God threw us this extraordinary curveball of that year and the anointing of God Almighty by all Israel who appoints Him as their own Head. His incredible power and love allows them to do it. And that threw me. We’re, you know, been trial and error. Then, hit and miss and, occasionally, piecemeal. And it’s been difficult for the brethren. But, as I've said many times if they’re appreciating all the marvelous things we’re learning in this long Series…then they shoulda stayed. Some didn’t. Most did.
Dave begins his excuses by blaming God. There is no fear of God before his eyes.
Only the most feeble-minded RCG members "appreciate all the marvelous things” that are constantly changing. During the Conference, big-ticket items changed from one day to the next repeatedly. Dave must have felt the pressure to inoculate growing doubts among the ministry.
Part 448, Part 2 – June 11, 2023
@ 44:14 He {I} wouldn’t go out as Elijah and talk to the world and noise abroad what’s gonna happen. He’d {I} tell the house…I just never could figure out what day it was that he {I} tells them. And a lotta people say, “This is takin’ too long.” So, we had our own scoffers. There’d be no problem with scoffers here. But our scoffers sometimes wait two or three years and then blow it. Then, reach up and rip their crown off and smash it against a rock. Or you hope that God will be merciful and they’re prodigal sons or their lost sheep or lost coins.
Nobody has ever left The Restored Church of God because "this is taking too long." People are worn out by the failed dates. Each incident reinforces that David C. Pack is a false prophet, and God is not using him to teach any of this.
Dave has been covering topics outside of just prophetic timing. He continually perverted who and what God is, which drove me out. The Restored Church of Another god teaches a string of blasphemous doctrines that the Headquarters hirelings are "in complete agreement" with. He lists some of them before defending his never-ending Series.
Part 450, Part 1 – June 13, 2023
@ 09:34 So, all of those things illustrate a powerful point about the Series. Some saw (and I tried to dispel this), but some saw the Series as “the prophecy Series.” I did to a degree because, of course, we had to straighten out prophecy. But, I’ve tried to emphasize as much as I could till I was blue in the face that it’s way more than that. We’ve learned a tremendous amount that has nothing to do with prophecy.
What God has commanded is not this Series or the content of it.
@ 15:53 You can’t separate the two. Some sat here, critics who knew it all, and they complained and they left because "I'm tired of prophecy." They didn't seem to grasp, no matter how many times Mr. Pack tried to say it, that you can’t separate all of this because we’re gonna hafta teach all things whatever God has commanded.
@ 27:33 I, hopefully, brethren, I put the Series in its proper perspective. What it was and what it contained, and what it was not. “Which is 450 sermons on prophecy.” That’s what our enemies say ‘cause that’s the best way to depict it.
I must not be counted as an enemy because I say "The Greatest Unending Story!" Series is 450 sermons on false prophecy. It is 450 sermons on blasphemous doctrines. 450 sermons filled to the brim and running over with deceit, lies, and foolishness.
@ 27:51 They’re the same people who say, “Pack wants your money.” When I don’t get your money. And I gave up two of my inheritances. And I don’t get a raise when people pay Common. The real truth is the liars saying that they want your money. Stay with them.
This sounds like Grandpa Dave conflating various ideas to create a non-existent composite “super-liar” coveting RCG funds. If anyone knows people trying to get tithes, offerings, and Common from RCG brethren, please write exrcgwebsite@gmail.com. This is thoroughly intriguing.
@ 28:06 And depict us as false just like they depict us as saying, “Oh, he talking about prophecy for seven-and-a-half years." Come on. You know, but I can understand if some who were sitting here depict it that way, then what are our enemies gonna say? Particularly when they’re likely, most likely to hear from those who leave us, that’s the way to see the Series.
Nobody needs to “depict” David C. Pack as false. He has cornered the market on that task. All anyone has to do is record what he says and play it back. Mission accomplished.
With these last few statements, I am beginning to see that maybe Brad is not giving Dave an accurate report of what "their enemies" are really saying. The truth of what is reported and Dave's impression of it, between the two are a great gulf fixed.
It’s funny. David C. Pack is operating off of misunderstanding and misinformation. He needs to read exrcg.org rather than accepting faulty summaries of exrcg.org.
Part 450, Part 2 – June 13, 2023
@ 1:23:18 But, Christ is coming as a thief. I don’t know how many people outside (our enemies) are getting these tapes and so forth. But, if Christ comes as a thief, in a way, we can’t know. Or certain enemies are gonna know, and maybe God doesn’t want that.
The Restored Church of God is not allowed to know when Jesus Christ will return because “enemies” will also know. That is equally stupid and interesting.
But for the grace of God go I.
The “tapes” will continue to leak from The Restored Church of God for however long God wills. He is clearly allowing it, or it would cease. I wonder if David C. Pack ever stops to wonder why. I certainly do. I never put God's fingerprints on my efforts, but I acknowledge it is done because He permits. I let the fruits speak for themselves.
Let the public record expose which one of us is a blaspheming liar.
Part 451, Part 2 – June 14, 2023
@ 13:26 Unfortunately, you know, there may be…some among us who say, "Oh, that's it. I'm done. My Lord delays His coming," and they quit. Now, my first thought is if after all they've learned, they quit. They were what? You might as well. In fact, please do. If that's what you're thinking. Go ahead and quit because you were never gonna get salvation anyway.
The Judgment Seat of Dave has rendered a verdict: No salvation for you. In fact, you were “never” in the running. He is astutely aware of who God is and is not working with and who will receive and not receive the gift of salvation.
All hail Grandpa Dave! The voice of a god and not of a man. He will be like the Most High!
@ 13:49 Or stick around so that you're not sorry you quit when these months develop into the things that Amos says…So we may have time. I'm trying to hit this from every perspective, that more decide to quit. Then might I yet learn more? Maybe. I already can't finish everything in the Conference, but I could easily give one or two messages each of the next two months.
Ever-Learning Dave gave Parts 453 and 454 two days after the Ministerial Conference. Part 455 is scheduled for tomorrow. Oh yes, he learned more. He just never learned when to quit.
@ 26:18 And there’s a lotta bad guys out there waiting for us. People went for Mr. Armstrong. They wanted his throat. They wanted the Apostles in prison. They’re gonna come after me. But there’s a lot riding on this. So, God would have to protect me.
There are no Boogie Men after David C. Pack. He is not even on the radar outside the COG landscape. The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God is insignificant to the nth degree for the Average Joe.
And Dave is already in the devil’s back pocket, so why would he do anything to spoil all that fun?
Watch David C. Pack turn nasty on a dime.
In this unique moment, he goes from softly talking about loving the people of God to viciously mocking them seconds later. His tone, attitude, and demeanor snap as if another persona has taken over.
Part 452 – June 15, 2023
@ 1:33:22 And if you love the people of God…Pray that it’s soon so our brothers and sisters who are afflicted can participate with us in this awesome calling. And if we gotta take some lumps or there’s some people dumb enough to leave, “If I can’t be over one month and one kingdom and one generation, I’m not gonna stay here. So I can be over the entire world for a year.” Well, then maybe then I guess they could quit. ‘Cause I don’t know how long we’ll wait.
The “if you love the people of God” manipulation was repeated a few times.
Only the dumb people leave The Restored Church of God. That is the judgment coming from the seat of David C. Pack, who knows and knows that he knows. The dumb people who quit were never going to receive salvation anyway, so the sooner they depart, the better.
David C. Pack is blameless and blind to the painful suffering he has caused countless brethren over the years. He believes that he sees when he is walking in utter darkness.
May God have mercy on David C. Pack. He knows not what he does, for his judgment seat has no room for truth or mercy.
